Timeline for What do you think is the largest problem facing Math.SE today (July 2015)?
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| Jul 25, 2015 at 11:14 | comment | added | user169373 | Another point about "HINT", sometimes users give an answer with this and doesn't reply in any, real, question by the OP to get the final result. And I feel that if we show our work, a "HINT" answer is inappropriate. | |
| Jul 19, 2015 at 8:59 | comment | added | Asaf Karagila Mod | @darij: I had my share of experience with answers that require several days, some of them even longer to reach a point where they are finally correct and answering the question. But the majority of questions admit an answer which can be written in <12 hours, often in <2 hours as well. If you choose to only answer those questions which require >12 hours, that's great for you, but it's not a reason to call this badge a rat race. (And I'm not saying this just because I recently obtained that badge. I do believe that to be true.) | |
| Jul 18, 2015 at 23:38 | comment | added | darij grinberg | Am I the only one who thinks the Illuminator badge is somewhat of a rat race (in the sense of: more of a rat race than the average SE badge)? "Edit and answer 500 questions (both actions within 12 hours, answer score > 0)." Sometimes a good answer takes more than 12 hours to find and write up (often aided by the fact that the original version of the OP is unclear and needs author input to even become a question), while a good edit can be made right away. | |
| Jul 13, 2015 at 2:58 | comment | added | Brian M. Scott | @Arthur: Some of those short hints are actually pretty good, and others are reasonable, if skimpier than I would offer. In any case, the fact that some people overestimate their ability to give hints isn’t really much of an argument against hints per se, any more than the fact that some people overestimate their ability to give answers is much of an argument against answers per se. | |
| Jul 12, 2015 at 7:10 | comment | added | user21820 | @GeorgesElencwajg: Yes there is that unfortunate tendency to make mental errors when trying to give hints. The solution is to actually write out a full solution before cutting out parts that one feels the asker can feel in or even cutting it further down to hints. | |
| Jul 12, 2015 at 0:46 | comment | added | user147263 |
Off-topic: search parameter created:2015 is easier to type and does the same thing.
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| Jul 10, 2015 at 0:53 | comment | added | Brian M. Scott | I’ve already upvoted his comment, but to make it explicit, (to no one’s surprise) I agree with @Asaf about hints. I also disagree to some extent with Arthur’s call for more thorough editing of questions. I will edit them to make them understandable, but as an answerer I find it helpful to see the original wording: it can give me an idea of the asker’s level of knowledge and facility with English. | |
| Jul 8, 2015 at 7:18 | comment | added | Georges Elencwajg | A big problem with hints is that its providers are sometimes unable to give a complete solution themselves. This is clear when they admit they can't give details after being challenged or when they give hints for proving statements which happen to be false. | |
| Jul 7, 2015 at 16:45 | comment | added | davidlowryduda Mod | Indeed, I also used to like hints. But not anymore. @1999: In fact, it is also included on meta.math.stackexchange.com/questions/1868/… as a canonical best answer. | |
| Jul 7, 2015 at 16:32 | comment | added | user147263 | Integration by partial fractions; how and why does it work? does exist, written by a former user who cared about some of the things on your list. | |
| Jul 7, 2015 at 13:31 | comment | added | user642796 Mod | @Asaf: You might be able to give good hints, but then users who are decidedly not as able begin to give their "hints". I used to think hints were great. Then I became a mod and began to see a lot of crappy hint "answers", and wondered why. I believe it because higher rep users (who often post hints) are inadvertently acting as role models, and so others try to copy their style of answering. If answers were answers, I think we'd see a lot fewer crappy answers. Peruse our shortest hint answers for a taste. | |
| Jul 7, 2015 at 10:25 | comment | added | Najib Idrissi | To be fair, even on SO with its millions of users, only 30 illuminator badges have been awarded. I agree with everything else. | |
| Jul 7, 2015 at 10:24 | comment | added | Tobias Kildetoft | I prefer hints to be in the comments, leaving the answer box for actual answers. I also prefer when the OP follows up in a hint in the comments, but this happens all too rarely. | |
| Jul 7, 2015 at 10:23 | comment | added | quid | I think the "HINT:" style is just terrible. By contrast, I have no problem with terse answers that leave out details. | |
| Jul 7, 2015 at 10:12 | comment | added | Asaf Karagila Mod | I disagree about hints. I think that any reasonable (not just good, or great, hints) should be left as hints. If anything, in the long run hints can be as useful and perhaps pedagogically more useful than just writing the answer. If I were to transform every hint into a pedagogically complete answer, I'd probably spend the next couple of years in editing. Frankly, I'd rather spend this effort into writing a book about set theory (intro, intermediate, advance, all three?). | |
| Jul 7, 2015 at 10:08 | comment | added | Asaf Karagila Mod | I'm like... THIS close to the Illuminator badge! | |
| Jul 7, 2015 at 10:06 | history | answered | user642796Mod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |