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Jun 22, 2016 at 0:14 history closed user296602
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Duplicate of How to ask a good question.
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:48 comment added quid @NobleMushtak there is by now a strain of 30+ comments, mostly worthless. It does matter. That's all. I will not add one more.
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:42 comment added Noble Mushtak @quid Also, you never answered my point that it doesn't matter if this question is in bad faith. Does that mean you're in bad faith? (NOTE: I don't think you're in bad faith.) Unfortunately, I need to leave now, but I'd just like everyone to consider the perspective of someone who's frustrated with the site, because from my perspective, as a high schooler that is around high schoolers 35-40 hours a week for 10 months a year, this is basically the reaction to what seems to them as a bunch of teachers demanding too much from them when they need help that I would expect.
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:42 comment added Noble Mushtak @quid Think of this from the perspective of a frustrated student. Except for the initial suspicions of gang-upvoting, Joe wasn't really directly answering any of our questions for the first 20 minutes of his commenting but was instead asking his own frustrated questions about how to use the site. It's reasonable that he didn't respond to everything, especially because some people were being suspicious of him (which Joe likely interpreted as rude), because he wanted to get his questions out.
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:35 comment added quid @NobleMushtak they never answered my question for the earlier questions.
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:24 comment added user318569 Wouldn't let me delete this. I tagged it for moderation to do so.
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:22 comment added Noble Mushtak @Joe No problem! I'm glad I could help you, even if a lot of people don't believe this is a real issue. I wish you the best of luck on this site!
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:21 comment added user318569 All right thanks for the help mushtak.
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:21 comment added Will Jagy I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because does not seem to be a question meant in good faith
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:20 comment added Noble Mushtak @quid They gave us specific information by asking us specific questions like whether or not it was OK to ask duplicates or how to communicate textbook notes/pictures in questions. Also, arguably, I've asked questions in bad faith before in that I already knew the answer on the main site and usually, I answer my own questions myself. It doesn't matter whether or not this is a real or fake situation because it's a real issue and I know that Joe's not the new user with this problem. We need to deal with the barrier to entry that new users sometimes experience.
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:20 comment added mvw Comments feature a $\otimes$ for deletion at the end, if you move your mouse over your comment.
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:20 comment added Noble Mushtak @T.Bongers Sorry, I didn't know about that.
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:19 history edited pjs36
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Jun 21, 2016 at 20:19 comment added user296602 @NobleMushtak There are upvoted answers, so the question cannot be deleted. Joe: Please use civil language here.
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:17 comment added Noble Mushtak @Joe Go to the top of the page. Under your question text, it should say (discussion) and then under that, there are lots of buttons. One of those buttons should say "delete." Click that button and this thread will be deleted. I think you will still be able to view it and undelete the thread (I might be wrong about this), but only you and moderators will be able to see it.
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:16 comment added user296602 @NobleMushtak Given the number of sudden upvotes on a post that should really not have received them, together with the absolute refusal to engage with comments asking for specifics, I'm a little skeptical about this person's intentions.
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:15 comment added user318569 "You can use imgur.com to upload images to the Internet and then paste the link to the image in your question." This is genius. You are a genius. Keeping being excellent man. I think this is exactly what I needed.
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:14 comment added quid @NobleMushtak it still ought to be possible to give some specific information about their nature. You may consider the possibility this is just not a good faith post.
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:11 comment added Noble Mushtak @WillJagy Please consider that it's possible that the old questions Joe had were deleted, so Joe's not sharing them.
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:10 comment added Noble Mushtak @Joe I really suggest that you stay on the site and try again with all these new tips. I don't think helping you was a waste of time. If one of your problems was trying to put your notes into your question, that can be fixed with imgur.com. Usually, people are willing to help others if they have some kind of work or image from a textbook, even if that work is a link to an image (although honestly, other times, unfortunately, people are mean to users who use images because it's not embedded into the question using MathJax).
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:09 comment added Will Jagy Joe, as long as you refuse to link to the questions involved, it is a waste of time.
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:06 comment added Noble Mushtak @Joe You can use imgur.com to upload images to the Internet and then paste the link to the image in your question. Then, a user with enough reputation will edit your question so that the image can be embedded within your question. You can also use MathJax to embed equations into questions.
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:04 comment added user318569 Welp, sorry for bugging you guys, clearly this was a waste of everyone's time.
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:04 comment added user318569 Maybe the barrier to entry of this place is too high.
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:03 comment added user318569 Irl I show you what my textbook says, compare notes. Draw abstracted pictures of the principles in question. Stuff like that.
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:01 comment added Noble Mushtak @Joe What is "meatspace context?"
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:01 comment added user318569 How did you figure out how to use this website?
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:01 answer added Noble Mushtak timeline score: 5
Jun 21, 2016 at 20:00 review Close votes
Jun 22, 2016 at 0:14
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:55 comment added user318569 How do I translate math questions into text without loosing any of the meatspace context?
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:53 comment added user296602 @Joe Yes, it is. Vague questions are rarely constructive.
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:53 comment added user318569 Often when I ask questions, I can't figure out how to be specific. Only after I've read some answers can I zero in on what I was missing. Is this problematic?
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:49 comment added Noble Mushtak @Joe Also, yes, the search engine can be not helpful sometimes. I recently asked a question and someone told me a day later that it was a duplicate of theirs, which was not suggested by Math StackExchange in the Related Questions.
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:48 comment added Noble Mushtak @Joe If you ask questions that have been answered before, unless you add some kind of value to the question that was not there before, unfortunately, people will almost certainly down vote them because they are duplicates, which are not allowed on this site. Simply changing the phrasing is not enough.
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:48 comment added user296602 @Joe As it stands, nothing can be said beyond the boilerplate advice about how to ask. If you were to link to some of your poorly received questions, one could give some constructive specific advice; but if you're just asking a general question, a general thread has the answers.
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:47 comment added user318569 Is there some kind of cushion for newbs? I feel like all my problems with this site boil down to my lack of experience with the search engine.
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:46 comment added user318569 Is it okay to ask questions that have been answered before? I feel like this teaches the search engine to deal with phrasing better.
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:44 comment added quid @NobleMushtak It wasn't taken away. The meta site did just not yet catch up.
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:44 comment added Noble Mushtak @Joe Personally, I've seen a lot of people be mean to new users just because they haven't been on the site long enough to understand all the rules or because they really don't know how to approach the problem and just want some kind of help even if they don't have work. However, we can't help you ask better questions if you don't show us the questions people have downvoted.
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:43 comment added Noble Mushtak @Joe The reputation was taken away likely because this question was migrated to the meta site.
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:42 comment added user318569 The eleven reputation was taken away from me. Don't know why.
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:42 comment added quid You can always ask on Meta Stack Exchange
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:42 comment added user318569 Why can't I ask metaquestions before asking real questions?
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:41 comment added user318569 Should I give up since I can't figure out how to ask questions?
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:39 comment added user318569 If all my questions are metaquestions, does that mean I'm in a catch-22?
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:33 answer added mvw timeline score: 8
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:31 comment added quid Could you link to some of these questions? Without any details I am afraid we cannot say more than the general advice.
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:28 comment added Cameron Williams @SubhadeepDey I did
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:28 comment added user318569 Man, if you guys think I'm sockpuppeting, I might as well give up using this site at all. I just want to ask math questions without being downvoted to oblivion. Hanlon's razor please.
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:24 comment added Qwerty The OP mentions.. "THIS ACCOUNT" Understand something? @CameronWilliams
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:20 history migrated from math.stackexchange.com (revisions)
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:19 comment added AJY You now have 11. Take it to Meta.
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:19 comment added Cameron Williams How on earth did this get 3 upvotes in one minute? This seems like vote manipulation.
Jun 21, 2016 at 19:18 history asked user318569 CC BY-SA 3.0