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SimplyBeautifulArt has kindly volunteered to guide our first coordinated study, on calculus! It will be a study on basic calculus that may extend into higher-level topics. Mithrandir24601 has also volunteered to help SimplyBeautifulArt out.

Interested Students

Please list your names in the answer below and come into the Calculus and Analysis chatroom, where the class will be held, so you are pingable. There will be an informational meeting held on September 9 (this Saturday) at 22:00 UTC, which you can register for here (or you can just pop in, if you'd like). The class will meet weekly on Saturdays, also at 22:00 UTC. Feel free to come in early or late to the meetings, but it would be preferred that you join the conversation while its alive. If you don't, then the response may be late.

Due to unforeseen natural events along the Eastern coast of the US, I fear I may not be able to make it on Saturday. As such, anyone still interested in meeting Saturday may attempt to do so, though I may not be there. For the time being, please read the following chat message and stay safe.

https://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/39857462#39857462

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    $\begingroup$ Can we perhaps not turn the meta site to announcements and polls about this project? $\endgroup$ – Asaf Karagila Sep 3 '17 at 4:08
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    $\begingroup$ In relation to @Asaf's comment, I'll ask whether somebody could think of a suitable name for a tag related to "this type" of posts. (In this way, people who are not interested could at least avoid posts about this project by adding it to ignored tags.) $\endgroup$ – Martin Sleziak Sep 3 '17 at 5:12
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    $\begingroup$ I realize that you want to occasionally advertise your project, but please keep it to a minimum. It may be a good idea to only make these announcements in your project's chatroom. A possibility that occurs to me is to add the meta-tag featured to your "main" post. That way it would have more exposure in main. But, 1) Only moderators can add that meta tag, 2) I won't add it without the approval of the community and my fellow moderators, 3) It should be for a limited time only lest it blocks something else with a higher priority. $\endgroup$ – Jyrki Lahtonen Sep 3 '17 at 8:58
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    $\begingroup$ @Jyrki: I think that a one time featured post wouldn't be a bad idea for something like a week or two weeks. And that after that an alternative outlet for these sort of announcements should be found. It can be the chat (or a secondary chatroom with announcements) or something like that, or even a dedicated website or something. But that featured post should cover everything that people would want to know, and where to find additional information. $\endgroup$ – Asaf Karagila Sep 3 '17 at 10:19
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    $\begingroup$ Three meta posts are a lot. Meta is not as active as the main site (and when it is, it is usually not a good sign if health for the community). And no, this is not about the website or the community. It is about some group of people, who decided to use the chat platform for some additional mathematical use. This is fine, but don't pretend this is about the community or the site. $\endgroup$ – Asaf Karagila Sep 3 '17 at 15:19
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    $\begingroup$ @heather: Three posts may not be a problem. I am more worried about you announcing each and every lecture here in a different post. If the MSE University has, say, 12 courses going on concurrently, each with three lectures per week. Well, then we get 36 posts per week. And that, is a problem. Bumping a single thread with 36 updates per week is also a problem. $\endgroup$ – Jyrki Lahtonen Sep 3 '17 at 15:27
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    $\begingroup$ @AsafKaragila I certainly agree that too many posts about the same thing on meta are not good. And I get your point that there is a difference between something more closely related to SE and something which only uses chatrooms for some (albeit related) purpose. But in the past, when you had an idea on some activity to do in chat, meta seemed to be the natural place to discuss that suggestion - RFC: Chat Seminars, (And I'll admit I am probably the most frequent poster of suggestions of the form: "Could we maybe use chat for this and that.") $\endgroup$ – Martin Sleziak Sep 3 '17 at 16:45
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    $\begingroup$ This type of announcement on meta, about your proposal for using a chatroom as a platform for studying calculus, after seeking no feedback about the best available calculus teacher willing to participate (willing to teach is not necessarily "able" to teach, after all), nor other volunteers, is inappropriate. You're at a point at which suggestions should be restricted to the "Discussion on Education Opportunities on MSE" chat room, and or in the designated chat room in which your proposed event will occur. Asaf has expressed this far better than I. $\endgroup$ – Namaste Sep 3 '17 at 20:54
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    $\begingroup$ @SimplyBeautifulArt And where are you going to find the time, apart the five chatrooms you co-own and participate in actively, your high school classes (chunk of time, time for homework too), and your work on your associate's degree (chunk of time, and the time you'll need for homework, there, as well), for "teaching a class", when you've never taught? $\endgroup$ – Namaste Sep 3 '17 at 21:24
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    $\begingroup$ @MartinSleziak suggestion for tag that could help via favorites/ignores: chat-event, which is both what some other sites use to organize their chat events and the name for the SE chat feature implicated. $\endgroup$ – nitsua60 Sep 3 '17 at 23:20
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    $\begingroup$ @amWhy fwiw I'm reading the whole comment thread. And can I not respond to an objection you raised? Jyrki can respond as well if he/she would like. Yes, I agree with Simply's edits, I just haven't had time due to personal things I've had to do. Also, before you make me out as some sort of insulting jerk, please reread through your comments to me. You're coming across as quite demanding, offensive, and so forth. This may not be what you intended, but as Simply said, English sucks. $\endgroup$ – heather Sep 5 '17 at 0:44
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    $\begingroup$ @heather I'm afraid the responses (from the people not involved) to my suggestion to use the featured meta tag for this have been mostly negative. Here Asaf gave lukewarm support (possibly reading it the way it was intended - as a means of avoiding other meta-clutter). For her part amWhy seems to be skeptical. I polled two fellow diamond mods: one wants to see the concept of MSEU crash and burn, the other thought that "featuring" it amounts to officially condoning the attempt. Doesn't look too good, does it? $\endgroup$ – Jyrki Lahtonen Sep 5 '17 at 5:49
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    $\begingroup$ (cont'd) Judging from what I see here it's not clear that your plans are well developed yet. It may work out if you locate enough good people. For my part you are welcome to try and develop this further - wishing you luck. But it sounds to me that at the moment you have a study group that wishes to meet regularly, and is now assigning "a first speaker". My suggestion would be that you Go with that and see if it evolves naturally into something bigger. Baby steps. $\endgroup$ – Jyrki Lahtonen Sep 5 '17 at 5:59
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    $\begingroup$ @Jyrki: I did read your suggestion as intended, because as someone who is not an idealist 20-something anymore, I know that sometimes you need to see things crash and burnt before you understand that trying to list just a small piece of ice from the water means dragging a huge iceberg with it. I spoke against the blog, and I watched it die from lack of participation; and I spoke against these ideas, and we will watch them crash and burn. But for that, they need to first be half-assed built and covered with gasoline. Which is why I was lukewarm to allow one meta thread. However, [...] $\endgroup$ – Asaf Karagila Sep 5 '17 at 7:34
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    $\begingroup$ [...] I do understand why someone would think that a featured thread on meta is somewhat of an official support of the idea. And I do agree that in this case, either thorough clarification are needed, or giving up on the idea. And because history had taught us that there are never enough clarification, I concede that this is a point I have not thought when I first read your suggestion, and that it is a good point. So I no longer think it would be a good idea. $\endgroup$ – Asaf Karagila Sep 5 '17 at 7:37
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Interested Students

  • heather - I have a (very) little bit of experience with single-variable calculus. I've already taken highschool algebra and geometry at school.

  • A-B - Ping me.

  • Donald - ...

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