# MathJax on simple numbers, the HNQ and a game of 21

In question titles, should "simple numbers" – those numbers that stand on their own and which do not require any $$\TeX$$ symbols to express cleanly – be put into MathJax anyway? Examples include 21 and 0.5.

On 1 March 2019 I answered a question in one of my pet topics: Is there any other number that has similar properties as $$21$$? The question got onto HNQ, and I edited the question's title twice in keeping with my intention to have no MathJax formatting around 21.

I was then suspended for a week, and I find the suspension silly.

After the end of said suspension I had a look at the meta questions and found this answer, which explains how questions with MathJax in their titles are excluded from HNQ and illustrates a possible consequence – something I had figured out by myself very early on. It says

I think this aspect [MathJax in title excludes a question from HNQ] should be considered when editing questions that can be useful to a broader audience, especially when the benefit of markup is purely cosmetic.

The reason given for my suspension was that I was promoting my answers by making irrelevant edits to the title to remove the MathJax. But I disagree with that reason. Before any edits, the 21 question's title did not have any MathJax. 21 versus $$21$$ is a purely cosmetic change, and I believed in good faith that the question would be useful more generally, so I hold that I was working to improve the formatting with my edits relevantly, and that adding MathJax here is superfluous.

My convention is to not put MathJax around simple numbers. I remember that MathWorld follows a similar practice, and I have two reasons for adhering to it:

• The MathJax fonts are different from the fonts used to render normal text, so looks slightly unnatural if it's a simple number that is under the formatting. Compare "42 centimetres" against "$$42$$ centimetres".
• Most of my answers are typed on the Android app, so I can answer on the go and exercise my brain (my mid-term tests at the National University of Singapore in mathematics and computer science were coming up at the time of my suspension). The $and \ characters require multiple touches, so in the interests of time I avoid them if doing so does not affect the quality of the formatting. • "so in the interests of time I avoid them" You don't want to use a second to put MathJax and yet you spent more than a second editing the question to remove the MathJax. – Joel Reyes Noche Mar 9 at 2:43 • "so looks slightly unnatural if it's a simple number" From your answer: "which only holds for$n\le 21$. 21 is the solution" Doesn't the second 21 look slightly unnatural? – Joel Reyes Noche Mar 9 at 2:45 • @JoelReyesNoche On your first comment: I believe that the MathJax there was unnecessary. (It was Asaf Karagila, not me, who introduced it in the title.) On your second comment: the second 21 doesn't look unnatural to me at all. – Parcly Taxel Mar 9 at 3:39 • You got suspended for a week, for editing a title twice? – Gerry Myerson Mar 9 at 4:29 • @GerryMyerson Indeed, even though I made those edits in good faith, as explained in the body. – Parcly Taxel Mar 9 at 4:32 • Unfortunately, @Gerry, that's quite an oversimplification. (And since we do not discuss suspensions publicly, that is all I can say for now.) – Asaf Karagila Mar 9 at 8:07 • Also, Parcly, you knew that MathJax excludes questions from HNQ before the end of your suspension. And I know that, because even before I was a moderator you already argued with me about something similar in the comments of some question. I know that you want to write your own narrative in a positive light, but at least try to make it honest. – Asaf Karagila Mar 9 at 8:09 • Case in point for my last remark, math.stackexchange.com/revisions/2631135/2 (that alone should have had you suspended back then, actively sabotaging the site for your own gain). – Asaf Karagila Mar 9 at 8:37 ## 1 Answer The job of $$\rm\LaTeX$$ is to separate the mathematics from the text. This makes it easier to immediately grasp and understand which part of the text is the mathematical part. The text, however, includes the title. The intersection of 2 sets is empty If almost fine, because 2 is not there in a "mathematical capacity". (In general single digit numbers should be spelled out in these situation.) In contrast, How many 3 x 3 matrices are there over the field with 2 elements? Should be in $$\rm\LaTeX$$, because $$3\times 3$$ stands out more, and in this case I would even consider putting the 2 in $$\rm\LaTeX$$ (or even replacing the whole phrase with $$\Bbb F_2$$ or $$\Bbb{Z/2Z}$$). Doing these kind of thing is not a silly formatting meant to take your answer off the HNQ, it is meant to make the question more readable in a quicker way. This is exactly the same reason why you won't use $$\varepsilon$$ to denote a natural number in analysis, or use $$\pi$$ to denote a finite set of algebraic numbers in number theory. You could argue that those are just letters and that is justified, and you'd be right. But we learn to take context-hints from the notation and text we read. Which is why mathematical parts of a question including the title should be written in $$\rm\LaTeX$$. • (I brought up the 3 x 3 thing, because of this and that, by the way. Just to put some light on your prior behavior...) – Asaf Karagila Mar 9 at 8:37 • Sure, I understand, but "mathematical capacity" is quite subjective. Perhaps you should give guidelines in an easily accessible place for future reference (like the "guidelines on good use of$\LaTeX$in titles" question I linked in my question's body). I will accept your answer nevertheless. – Parcly Taxel Mar 9 at 10:15 • As an aside, I note that internally you use \Bbb instead of \mathbb for blackboard bold. I was told off once by Did when I was still using \Bbb, on the grounds that that is deprecated, and now use \mathbb.$\ddot\smile$– Parcly Taxel Mar 9 at 10:17 • In my actual$\rm\LaTeX\$ I never use \Bbb, here it doesn't matter since they are synonyms (unlike \rm and \mathrm). – Asaf Karagila Mar 9 at 10:44
• Am I all good now, fresh out of understanding the need to delineate the maths in questions and answers? – Parcly Taxel Mar 9 at 10:49