The title of the question is probably:
Relations between fractional ideals of an order of a quadratic number field and binary quadratic forms
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asked Oct 15, 2012 at 17:05
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6$\begingroup$ @Hurkyl My question was down voted because some people had ill feelings toward me for some reasons which had nothing to do with the question. You know that. $\endgroup$– Makoto KatoOct 15, 2012 at 20:35
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10$\begingroup$ @Bill: I find it questionable to undelete an automatically deleted questions, but fine with that. Why on earth did you undelete a question that was deleted by three community members? I thought that you disagreed with the idea that moderators should act against three/five votes from the community. Or is it only when you are against deletion and closure? $\endgroup$– Asaf Karagila ModOct 15, 2012 at 20:49
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8$\begingroup$ @Asaf Deletion should be reserved for content that has no place here such as spam. Neither of those questions meet that criteria. We all know what occurred back then. There is no reason to reopen that can of worms since these problems have all been solved (or, at least, compromises have been reached that keep the peace in the community). $\endgroup$– Bill DubuqueOct 15, 2012 at 20:58
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9$\begingroup$ @Bill: Deletion of content should be reserved for content that three high reputation members have agreed which should be deleted. I was one of the original deleting votes, and I still think that this should be deleted. I think that regardless to the identity of the OP. I think that that post was very unfitting to this site, and I was not the only who thought that, it seems. I don't see why a moderator which keep promoting "let the community do its work" is so anxious to override something done by the community. $\endgroup$– Asaf Karagila ModOct 15, 2012 at 21:00
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6$\begingroup$ @Asaf You are welcome to share your opinions on why you think these questions should be deleted, as is anyone. For such an extreme action there had better be very good reasons backing it up. No such reasons have been given by anyone. I doubt they exist. $\endgroup$– Bill DubuqueOct 15, 2012 at 21:08
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13$\begingroup$ @Bill: The point is that I have witnessed you zealously support the idea that only unanimous moderator decisions should allow a moderator to take action; and you have zealously promoted the idea that moderators should never (except in the case of spam, or so) remove content or close content. I even recall you advocating against final vote since it too is binding. Suddenly you no longer care. You undelete, a closed question which was deleted by three members, without discussing it with anyone, nor bringing it to the meta. $\endgroup$– Asaf Karagila ModOct 15, 2012 at 21:12
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7$\begingroup$ @Asaf Please do give your reasons for thinking that these questions require the extreme action of deletion. $\endgroup$– Bill DubuqueOct 15, 2012 at 21:18
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7$\begingroup$ @Bill: Please don't twist my words. I did not claim that any of the two automatically deleted questions should have been deleted, although I would probably be reluctant to undelete them on my own. I do think that a question polling for opinions whether or not the mathematical community should use a different notation for families because someone (who's admitting not to be a professional mathematician) found it confusing. I think that such idea should be brought up on a blog, not here. It has absolutely no correct answer, and it makes little sense, if any, to ask it on a site like this. $\endgroup$– Asaf Karagila ModOct 15, 2012 at 21:21
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16$\begingroup$ @Bill: I have provided my reasons for deletion, of course you have dismissed them because this is not "spam" in any way. Yes, you and I have very different visions for this site. What is unclear to me, is how someone so libertarian can act so much like a tyrant. If you think that the community should manage itself without interference, I would call undeleting a question closed by five, and deleted by three members without any moderator intervention an act of tyranny. I had some hopes that at least you were loyal to your own agenda, but apparently that is my mistake. $\endgroup$– Asaf Karagila ModOct 15, 2012 at 21:35
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9$\begingroup$ @Bill: And yet, twice as many people found them worthy of downvotes, and neither managed to attract any answers, and was even voted to be deleted. By taking unilateral action for the reasons you state, you are saying that the community doesn't matter, nor does empirical reality matter: only your opinion matters. $\endgroup$– user14972Oct 15, 2012 at 21:37
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8$\begingroup$ @Bill: Nope. That's why I have not been making arguments that they should be deleted, nor did I vote to delete (I think), nor did I program the autodeleter. I have yet to see you supply a thoughtful, rational argument that they should have been undeleted. Do you have one or not? $\endgroup$– user14972Oct 15, 2012 at 21:43
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8$\begingroup$ @Bill: ... but since you've made me think about it, yes I do have a thoughtful rational argument why the questions should have been deleted. The purpose of the "vote to delete" option is for people with high reputation and presumably good judgement with the site's best interest in mind can collectively judge a post worthy of deletion, and a quota of such users have weighed in their opinion. Similarly, the other post was judged poorly by the community, and passed a threshold that has been previously set to warrant auto-deletion. In neither case has a reasonable reason been to go against it. $\endgroup$– user14972Oct 15, 2012 at 21:59
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7$\begingroup$ @Hurkyl: For Bill it seems that the only rational argument for deletion is "spam" or "Bill decrees so". As this case is neither, I think that any further time wasted on this discussion is fruitless. I have began process for closing and deleting the now undeleted questions (now I do have a reason to delete the autodeleted ones -- Hurkyl's argument is wonderful). $\endgroup$– Asaf Karagila ModOct 15, 2012 at 22:05
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6$\begingroup$ @Bill: It wouldn't count in a brand new meta post on the topic of "should these questions be undeleted?", but it sure counts here. What do you think the purpose of "vote to delete" privilege and the auto-deleter are?!?! $\endgroup$– user14972Oct 15, 2012 at 22:10
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12$\begingroup$ @Bill: The topic of this discussion has been that of unilateral acts of moderation. If you really think the deletions were bizarre then why not open a meta post on the topic? Isn't that the usual manner in which such differences of opinion are supposed to be handled? $\endgroup$– user14972Oct 15, 2012 at 22:27
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Your question has had negative score and no answers for more than a month: it gets automaticaly deleted by the software.
answered Oct 15, 2012 at 17:15
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$\begingroup$ Thanks. I should have written the answer then. I have no idea why it was down voted. $\endgroup$ Oct 15, 2012 at 17:44
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1$\begingroup$ For reference on the auto-deleter: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/78048/… $\endgroup$– user14972Oct 15, 2012 at 23:07