Timeline for Don't review a first question by simply downvoting it or voting to close it
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| Nov 16, 2022 at 9:00 | comment | added | Martin Sleziak | At the end of the post you've mentioned examples of good questions - some related posts here on meta: Suggestions for examples of well-asked questions, Standard example of well asked question. and Examples and counterexamples of good questions and answers. | |
| Nov 16, 2022 at 8:59 | comment | added | Martin Sleziak | There is a recent question with a similar suggestion: Proposal: Require first time question askers to pass a short quiz on how to ask a good question, before posting their first question. | |
| Jan 29, 2021 at 8:10 | comment | added | David Diaz | There are a long chain of shaky assumptions that must be true for your answer to completely address the question. Don't let the upvotes get to you: you can do better. You can start by valuing other people's time, effort, and intentions in a way that allows you to find value in doing more than mouse clicking. If this is impossible, have you considered not reviewing first posts? | |
| Jan 29, 2021 at 7:42 | comment | added | KingLogic | Let us continue this discussion in chat. | |
| Jan 29, 2021 at 7:39 | comment | added | KingLogic | @DavidDiaz The title said "Don't review a first post by simply downvoting it or voting to close it." While I agree that how to improve the quality of feedback is the question, if we decrease the number of low-quality posts, then the quality of questions will improve, and therefore will be no need for closing or downvoting (ideally), and so therefore constructive feedback will be provided. We are not going to provide "constructive feedback" for homework questions that asks you to solve the problem without trying anything or question that just go 'asdfkljasdfv," right? They are sadly too common. | |
| Jan 29, 2021 at 7:35 | comment | added | David Diaz | Why do you think that the quality of feedback offered to users [the topic at hand], is addressed by improving the quality of question reaching the first post queue [your topic]? | |
| Jan 29, 2021 at 7:30 | comment | added | KingLogic | @DavidDiaz Not sure what you mean, can you elaborate? I think my answer should successfully solve the problem at hand. | |
| Jan 29, 2021 at 7:28 | comment | added | David Diaz | no, no, no. If you have an answer for an entirely different question, you should post a new question. | |
| Jan 29, 2021 at 7:27 | comment | added | KingLogic | @DavidDiaz Right, but if they were to thoroughly read the "Asking a good question," and seeing good examples, then they will start asking better questions, and already learn what good question looks like, so that decreases the chances that we would need to downvote or close. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. That's my solution to this issue. If you have a better suggestion then you can add your own answer. | |
| Jan 29, 2021 at 6:59 | comment | added | David Diaz | Your answer does not address the post (preventing harm to new users, and implicitly the community, by effortless question gatekeeping). Suggestions/ideas for changing the quality of questions that reach the first post review queue is a red herring topic. There is prior evidence that you conflate these issues: In your comment to the post you assert that in coin flip situations, close voting is the cautious choice. This is capital eff false. Your ability to gatekeep is not more important than feedback offered to the new user and others through public communication. | |
| Jan 29, 2021 at 6:37 | comment | added | KingLogic | @DavidDiaz What do you disagree with? | |
| Jan 29, 2021 at 6:33 | comment | added | David Diaz | Downvoted enthusiastically. | |
| Jan 23, 2021 at 22:26 | comment | added | user64742 | @AdamRubinson Not just that. They monopolize the online mathematical community. There is no other site one can go to discuss mathematics. This therefore means all users interested in math will join this site. | |
| Jan 22, 2021 at 17:21 | history | edited | KingLogic | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jan 22, 2021 at 9:56 | comment | added | Ennar | You could simply show examples of good and bad questions and explain the difference. I think it will get the point across faster than just writing down the "rules" as if a question was an essay. | |
| Jan 19, 2021 at 18:32 | history | edited | KingLogic | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jan 18, 2021 at 15:47 | history | edited | KingLogic | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jan 18, 2021 at 15:22 | comment | added | Paramanand Singh Mod | @AdamRubinson: I also agree with the answer, but I doubt if SE overlords will also agree. | |
| Jan 18, 2021 at 15:20 | comment | added | Adam Rubinson | @Paramanand Singh The company's goal of increasing user base will continue to happen regardless: math.se clearly monopolises the "online math questions and answers" website market. Furthermore, you can see in Joe's answer that the advice on how to write a good question it rather short. I think I actually agree with this answer, so long as the quiz is short and doesn't come across as patronising. | |
| Jan 18, 2021 at 8:16 | comment | added | Paramanand Singh Mod | This entry barrier will run counter to the company's goal of increasing user base and thus less likely to be implemented. | |
| Jan 18, 2021 at 3:27 | history | answered | KingLogic | CC BY-SA 4.0 |