Timeline for Why is a sandbox needed?
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| Jul 4, 2021 at 17:05 | vote | accept | Ray Butterworth | ||
| Jul 3, 2021 at 17:56 | comment | added | Bill Dubuque | According to this comment I created it almost exactly 9 years ago. That thread has discussion of the frequent editing that was irritating many users (among other problematic actions). Some comments there and/or in the sandbox have been deleted (not by me)- which obscures the true history. | |
| Jul 3, 2021 at 17:41 | comment | added | Bill Dubuque | I devised amd created the sandbox many years ago when I was a moderator. It was motivated in part by the actions of a user who was making a large number of edits to many of his posts - which was causing a lot of noise on the front page. The user was making frequent edits because his machine was unstable (often crashing) so he needed a convenient way to save drafts to the cloud. Back then Stackexchange had much fewer features so it served a pressing need. | |
| Jul 3, 2021 at 16:34 | comment | added | Asinomás | I don't know why it's "needed", but I think it's used because many people don't know a better way to prepare long posts. I personally don't have a problem with it. Although it constantly floats to the meta home page, which is something I have heard people complain about in other contexts (posts floating up to homepage). | |
| Jul 3, 2021 at 15:41 | answer | added | Martin Sleziak | timeline score: 10 | |
| Jul 3, 2021 at 13:52 | comment | added | Gerry Myerson | I don't know why someone thought it necessary to create chicken chow mein – I'm not even sure that anyone did find it necessary – but judging by how many people have availed themselves of it, it seems to have been a good idea. I will not be drawn on the question of whether chicken chow mein is better than the normal cheese enchiladas. | |
| Jul 3, 2021 at 13:43 | comment | added | Ray Butterworth | @GerryMyerson, I'm not objecting to it, I'm wondering why someone thought it necessary to create it in the first place. In particular, "How is this sandbox method better than using the normal draft mechanism?". | |
| Jul 3, 2021 at 13:39 | comment | added | Gerry Myerson | You ask, "Why is a sandbox needed?" That's clearly the wrong question. It's a bit like asking, "Why are Chinese restaurants needed?" Maybe you don't need a Chinese restaurant, maybe you would never go into one, but the existence of Chinese restaurants does you no harm, and other people do find them useful, so even if they're not needed, they do serve a purpose. Ditto, the sandbox. | |
| Jul 3, 2021 at 6:32 | comment | added | Arctic Char | @MartinSleziak Wow, that explains a lot. | |
| Jul 3, 2021 at 6:11 | comment | added | Martin Sleziak | @RayButterworth In fact, I have learned that the OP cannot edit self-deleted questions here: Would using deleted (“hidden”) questions on math.SE for personal use be considered misuse of the site? To some extent, what I asked about was a bit similar to your suggestion: I have learned about the problem with editing self-deleted questions here: Would using deleted (“hidden”) questions on math.SE for personal use be considered misuse of the site? | |
| Jul 3, 2021 at 6:03 | comment | added | Martin Sleziak | @ArcticChar I will just add that it is not possible to edit a self-deleted question. (See: Why can I not edit a self-deleted question? This is also mentioned in the FAQ post: How does deleting work? What can cause a post to be deleted, and what does that actually mean? What are the criteria for deletion?) | |
| Jul 3, 2021 at 5:10 | comment | added | Arctic Char | By posts I mean question post. If you edit a delete answer, it still bumps the thread IIRC. | |
| Jul 3, 2021 at 4:59 | comment | added | Arctic Char | One way that the sandbox is better then editing your own deleted post is that it is easily located, your own deleted posts cannot be found on your profile after 60 days and you have to save the link. (But other than that, your suggestion seem good to me) | |
| Jul 3, 2021 at 3:27 | comment | added | Paramanand Singh Mod | It's fine. You don't need to remove that part. | |
| Jul 3, 2021 at 2:48 | comment | added | Ray Butterworth | @ParamanandSingh, I didn't mean to make it sound like privacy was a big issue. (Spying on other people's activities is 99.9+% boring.) If you think it distracts too much, I can remove that part of the sentence. | |
| Jul 3, 2021 at 2:44 | comment | added | Ray Butterworth | @CalvinKhor, for most people privacy doesn't matter. Some of us compose things in a non-linear fashion, a bit here, a bit there, some of the end, then some of the middle, and so on. And then we move bits from one place to another and rearrange things. Meanwhile we rewrite and rephrase. And then we fact check what we wrote from memory and discover some of it was wrong. And so on. I know I'd feel somewhat inhibited if I knew someone was looking over my shoulder during this process. ¶ But that's not the real issue (I compose in vim and paste into SE). | |
| Jul 3, 2021 at 2:12 | comment | added | Calvin Khor | Why is the lack of privacy a concern? Parks are not private either, but people still use them, and further they do not expect privacy in them. | |
| Jul 3, 2021 at 0:52 | comment | added | Paramanand Singh Mod | The concern regarding privacy should not be big problem. I can't imagine a scenario where someone would consistently monitor sandbox to engage in some sort of plagiarism. | |
| Jul 3, 2021 at 0:45 | history | asked | Ray Butterworth | CC BY-SA 4.0 |