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| Nov 25, 2014 at 5:59 | comment | added | Jonas Meyer | Hard to say. There was little tangible reward, and I would say it is negative reinforcement in that if I hadn't looked it up it would be nagging at me. @Asaf | |
| Nov 25, 2014 at 5:51 | comment | added | Asaf Karagila Mod | @Jonas: Is Google's reinforcement positive or negative? :-) | |
| Nov 20, 2014 at 3:46 | comment | added | Jonas Meyer | @dustin: I'm glad I asked, because you use the term "negative reinforcement" in a way different from what I learned in an introductory psychology course (I don't know much). I think you are referring to punishment, whereas negative reinforcement (I was taught, and a google search reinforces) refers to reinforcing a behavior by removing something bad. Hence it is reinforcement, whereas punishment is intended to be the opposite. Or perhaps, reopening after improvements are made would be a form of negative reinforcement, which I support. Anyway, what research are you referring to? | |
| Nov 19, 2014 at 23:46 | comment | added | dustin | @JonasMeyer negative learning is voting to close and down voting new users before they have time to understand instead of using comments first. Why do you think researchers say spanking children isn't an affective teaching tool as well as accosting a child verbally? That only teaches avoidance not to change a behavior. | |
| Nov 19, 2014 at 22:51 | comment | added | Jonas Meyer | @dustin: You haven't said how this psychological research applies here. What negative reinforcement are you referring to exactly? It really isn't clear to me, and I doubt it would become so by studying literature you allude to. | |
| Nov 19, 2014 at 14:43 | comment | added | dustin | @NajibIdrissi it has extensively been shown that negative reinforcement doesnt change behavior. You can read the literature on the topic for proof. | |
| Nov 19, 2014 at 8:34 | comment | added | Najib Idrissi | In this other thread, one can see how plausible it is to change the behavior of people who answer bad questions. People are so eager to answer that they bypass the closing system and answer in the comments; what could make anyone believe that leaving a comment to them would change anything? | |
| Nov 19, 2014 at 5:36 | comment | added | Asaf Karagila Mod | @Gerry: If you really look at it, the only way to enforce either one to change is by rapid closure. Users eager to answer might think twice before spending time posting an answer to a bad question (although two line hints don't always require time), and users posting questions will be forced to do a better job to begin with (assuming they even understand why their question was closed). But don't read this as advocating for rapid closure, it's just my $2^{-10}$ cents. | |
| Nov 19, 2014 at 3:40 | comment | added | Gerry Myerson | @Carl, you are suggesting that it is easier to change the behavior of newusers with bad questions than it is to change the behavior of posters eager to answer bad questions. I'm not so sure. Have you tried leaving comments for people who answer bad questions, pointing out the drawbacks of their behavior, seeing whether you can get them to change their ways? | |
| Nov 18, 2014 at 20:34 | comment | added | dustin | @CarlMummert I am just saying it would be better to leave some constructive comments and wait to see if the OP acts on before closing and down voting. If the OP doesn't or wont act on these comments, they deserve no help. | |
| Nov 18, 2014 at 20:25 | comment | added | Carl Mummert | The main issue with waiting to vote to close, of course, is that in order to have the desired effect it would require others to wait until the question is improved before writing answers. Otherwise, the result is just that a poorly composed question is answered, and the OP has no concrete reason to improve. | |
| Nov 18, 2014 at 19:00 | history | answered | dustin | CC BY-SA 3.0 |