Timeline for Can we please STOP closing and deleting old posts with answers?
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| S May 11, 2019 at 17:56 | history | mod moved comments to chat | |||
| S May 11, 2019 at 17:56 | comment | added | quid Mod | Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat. | |
| May 5, 2019 at 8:47 | comment | added | user21820 | I don't disagree with this answer, by the way, but if a small minority insists on restoring bad questions then obviously there is going to be a problem. And in many cases it is precisely the users who got their rep from PSQs who are the most insistent on this even if there is no contention that the question is a bad one. | |
| May 5, 2019 at 8:39 | comment | added | user21820 | @QthePlatypus: You're misusing pedagogical research. Negative feedback is a poor teaching tool for the general population. So it does not apply to the minority of users who persistently regularly answer PSQs. Secondly, rep gained by the asker is taken away if the question is deleted, as well as rep gained by the accepted answer, and this has been the case since the beginning of SE, which implies that indeed the designers of the SE system thought the penalty should be there regardless of the age of the question. | |
| May 4, 2019 at 14:57 | comment | added | Lord_Farin | @QthePlatypus I have to agree with you. We established that timing influences the desirability of deletion, in line with best practice to not retrofit today's norms on the past by means of deletion (for closure separate assessment is required). This should factor in any compromise to be reached. | |
| May 3, 2019 at 7:38 | comment | added | Q the Platypus | @Lord_Farin this question is about old answers and questions so any reward has already had its effect. Deletion doesn’t undo it. When applied inappropriately deletion just removes useful content. | |
| May 3, 2019 at 6:31 | comment | added | Lord_Farin | @QthePlatypus If negative feedback is a poor teaching tool, you seem to imply positive feedback is a good teaching tool. So what effect does it have to reward answers to poor questions with upvotes and other positive feedback? (Admittedly this applies more to recent bad questions.) | |
| May 2, 2019 at 23:50 | comment | added | Q the Platypus | Pedagogical research shows that negative feedback is a poor teaching tool. In my mind it weighs against removing content and towards improving (via editing) that content. In my mind deletion of content is a least best option and we should ask ourselves “What can we do in order to best use this content”. | |
| May 1, 2019 at 11:46 | comment | added | quid Mod | Beyond that and as explained earlier I prefer some things to be delete for the sake of educating users mostly those that answered questions that should not have been answered. There is a trade-off though between that goal and removing valuable content. Thus, in a case where things can be delete without valuable content being removed I might find it preferable to do that even if one could also preserve it, especially if the latter creates extra work. @QthePlatypus | |
| May 1, 2019 at 11:42 | comment | added | quid Mod | @QthePlatypus depends. For the same reason I gave a higher number of answers are not necessarily an improvement. As a matter of fact we have questions with near identical answers from the same user. Serves little purpose in my opinion. Besides, and often more relevant the redundancy is not one of exact duplication, and even in that cases merging is not always an opition. I agree that the point you raised in the first comment is important. The point is many of the so-called useful posts score very low on that if you ask me. | |
| May 1, 2019 at 4:40 | comment | added | Q the Platypus | @quid if there is redundant examples of the question isn't it better to mark as duplicates and move the answers? | |
| May 1, 2019 at 4:38 | comment | added | Q the Platypus | I think you have missed a way of addressing usefulness "Will this question answer combination lead a person to get the answer to a question they would be asking". | |
| Apr 30, 2019 at 11:59 | comment | added | quid Mod | I think the issue of "usefulness" indeed deserves more attention as it's more subtle than the discussions sometimes give it credit for. A problem is that often posts are discussed in isolation and it is said something that amounts to "look, clearly this is or could be useful" and this would be often true if the post was the only content available. However, in a situation where some information is available multiple times removing lesser versions of it actually can be helpful to those searching for it as they are more likely to find a better version. | |
| Apr 30, 2019 at 6:15 | comment | added | John Omielan | I've been reading not only the recent posts, but also some older ones to get a good idea of how it used to be here. There's been quite a few disagreements, sometimes even quite acrimonious ones, with a lot of it apparently due to not having a clear, generally agreed policy. In a community as relatively large & diverse as this one, you're never going to get complete acceptance of any document. However, drafting some sort of fairly detailed compromise, then possibly have a vote/poll on it, & enforcing it, is something I strongly agree with, even if I won't fully agree with what it might state. | |
| Apr 29, 2019 at 20:09 | comment | added | Carl Mummert | I would like to see a compromise, if the moderators will be willing to stand behind one. Nothing is ever going to find unanimous support. We need a way for the site to make a decision which is binding even on those who might disagree with it. | |
| Apr 29, 2019 at 20:05 | comment | added | Lord_Farin | So... has the time come? Should we attempt to draft a compromise? Should we attempt to draft an approach to drafting a compromise? | |
| Apr 29, 2019 at 20:03 | history | answered | Lord_Farin | CC BY-SA 4.0 |