# math.SE and Winter Bash 2013

Note: See robjohn's answer below for the surprising result.

Thanks to everyone for voicing their opinions!

As the year draws to a close, the Stack Exchange network is planning another Winter Bash.

# Some Details

• Winter Bash is an annual event that can run on any Stack Exchange site that chooses to participate. Users earn “hats” for their gravatars by completing certain tasks (analogous to badges). Certain actions trigger the user receiving a hat, which their gravatar can “wear”.

• This event will run from 16 December 2013 to 3 January 2014. Users will be able to see their entire hat collection at http://winterbash2013.stackexchange.com. That site will also have a landing page, explaining the rules and other details of the event.

• Individual users who don’t want to participate, don’t want to see hats, and/or are generally anti-hat will have an “I hate hats” option available.

• At the end of the event, all hats will go back into storage.

The only visual change to the Stack Exchange sites themselves will be the presence of the hats and the “I hate hats” button in the footer.

In the past, math.SE has not opted to join this event. This year we want to get input from the community. Just vote on whether you wish math.SE to participate in this event, and $$\huge\color{#000000}{\textbf{please do not downvote these answers.}}$$

We have until 1 December 2013 to inform the Stack Exchange team whether we wish to participate (otherwise they will assume we don't).

• Are there any other options other than the two below? I feel like my excluded middle is being left out. – copper.hat Nov 20 '13 at 8:32
• @copper.hat: As long as I'm a moderator here we will obey tertium non datur!! I shall have none of your intuitionistic insolence!! – user642796 Nov 20 '13 at 9:12
• On with the fun, so! – copper.hat Nov 20 '13 at 9:27
• Arthur: You should have written that you will not have people not following the LEM while you're a moderator. :-) – Asaf Karagila Nov 20 '13 at 19:03
• I like fun, but we resist asking people to click through. I had to click through to find out what this was about, then again to search for what a gravatar (and the spell checker refuses this word) is. How can my gravatar (one of the symmetric square patterns) wear a hat, glasses or whatever? Call me a Grinch. – Ross Millikan Nov 22 '13 at 4:04
• Which tasks users will have to accomplish to receive hats? Is the set of tasks the same for all Stack Exchange sites, or it can be customised? If we may have tasks that will help e.g. to reduce the unanswered queue, then why not to join? – Alexander Konovalov Nov 22 '13 at 10:26
• @AlexanderKonovalov: I am almost certain that the tasks (and hats) will be uniform across the SE network. The details of these tasks have not been released to even the lowly moderators, but there should be a mixture of helpful tasks, and some more or less random tasks (last year posting or voting on 21 Dec earned you an "And I Feel Fine" hat). – user642796 Nov 22 '13 at 10:41
• @ArthurFischer thanks for details. It looks like at least it will make no harm, and may even help, so +1 for "Yes". – Alexander Konovalov Nov 22 '13 at 10:53
• And so it begins! – Dan Rust Dec 16 '13 at 0:05
• blog.stackoverflow.com/2013/12/winter-bash-2013-is-here – Joel Reyes Noche Dec 16 '13 at 1:28
• "At the end of the event, all hats will go back into storage." I'm assuming this not only means you can no longer earn hats, but also hats that you have earned will be deleted, correct? – Squirtle Dec 23 '13 at 4:55

# We're in!

I have informed the StackExchange team that we wish to participate in the Winter Bash. Find a comfortable snow bank for cover!

• If I understand the badge description correctly, if this answer gets 10 upvotes, Arthur Fischer will get 2 populist badges. I think we should try to do it. – Martin Sleziak Nov 29 '13 at 16:05
• @MartinSleziak No, one doesn't get Populist for answers to own questions. Source – Post No Bulls Nov 29 '13 at 17:32
• Oh, it's a pitty! :-( But it's interesting to know anyway. – Martin Sleziak Nov 29 '13 at 17:35
• @Martin: From an experiment we had on this meta some time ago only the top voted answer gets a Populist. – Asaf Karagila Nov 29 '13 at 19:51
• I'd just like to say.... I had no idea mods could lock individual answer! Good to know. – Dan Rust Nov 29 '13 at 21:01
• @DanielRust: I think it is extremely rare that anyone would lock an individual answer. I thought this was a good way to retain the votes (although a couple seem to have snuck in before I remembered that I actually could do this). My original intention was to simply lock the question, but when I saw robjohn's answer I simply had to allow it to accumulate some votes. – user642796 Dec 1 '13 at 13:33
• @MartinSleziak: the code seems to reflect what we've been told. Arthur Fischer did not get a Populist badge when this answer got 11 votes. – robjohn Dec 2 '13 at 11:42

# Yes!!!

math.SE should surely join in on this fun!

[Downvoting this answer will cause ZFC to be inconsistent.]

• twitch ...Must avoid downvote... twitch – Lord_Farin Nov 19 '13 at 15:47
• Not letting us downvote denies the Axiom of Choice. – robjohn Nov 19 '13 at 15:50
• @robjohn: Arthur has joined my programme against choice! – Asaf Karagila Nov 19 '13 at 16:34
• @Asaf You might want to carefully inspect the answer you are referring to.... – user642796 Nov 19 '13 at 16:52
• @Lord_Farin After posting I realised that the the footnote might have the absolute opposite effect as what I wished. So far, so good. [jinx] – user642796 Nov 19 '13 at 16:54
• @Arthur: Yes, you have joined the Dark Side. If asked, you didn't have a choice. :-) – Asaf Karagila Nov 19 '13 at 16:57
• Hm. Someone downvoted. Couldn't they wait until I got my Ph.D. and a tenured position before causing all of my work to be inconsistent and moot?? :-( – Asaf Karagila Nov 19 '13 at 21:17
• [Adds 'I don't care' vote - Downvoting this answer will cause $P=NP$.] – Dan Rust Nov 19 '13 at 22:08
• Downvoting this comment will end world hunger for ever. – Karl Kroningfeld Nov 19 '13 at 23:18
• @Asaf: I blame the category theorists, myself. – Brian M. Scott Nov 20 '13 at 3:28
• @Brian: I blame the type theorists, from which there are apparently many in recent times. – Asaf Karagila Nov 20 '13 at 6:34
• Wow, this conversation is so pointless. – Ahaan S. Rungta Nov 20 '13 at 16:18
• Apparently, more people want ZFC to be inconsistent rather than the Riemann Hypothesis to be false... :) – apnorton Nov 20 '13 at 16:38
• @anorton: It could be that the literacy rate is higher among those that want RH to be false as compared to those that want $\mathsf{ZFC}$ to be inconsistent. – user642796 Nov 20 '13 at 16:44
• Congrats on the great answer badge :P – Lost1 Nov 21 '13 at 13:19

# No!!!

mathematics is serious business, and so is math.SE!

[Downvoting this answer will ensure that Riemann's Hypothesis is false.]

• That would be awesome. We can write a joint paper and get the Fields medal and a million dollars!! If only I haven't upvoted this question I would have instantly downvoted it. – Asaf Karagila Nov 19 '13 at 16:35
• I voted for this option for reasons of self moderation -- I know I should spend those hours on other things than gathering digital hats. – Lord_Farin Nov 19 '13 at 22:59
• Apparently someone wants RH to be false. (Not me though) – user27126 Nov 20 '13 at 5:46
• Other things? Like gathering digital badges? ;) – Nameless Nov 20 '13 at 13:23